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hutch0
Date: 2008-09-22 23:47
Subject: those what leads us
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This is a photograph of our Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary. It's in the Times so it probably hasn't been Photoshopped.




Captions, anyone?
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-22 23:53 (UTC)
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"Would you mind very much removing your thumb, old chap? We're on camera."
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-23 21:24 (UTC)
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LOL! Actually, the funniest thing about that is the thought that Gordon and David would call each other `old chap.' I have a feeling that in private Gordon calls everyone `Boy' (even the female members of the Cabinet) and makes them call him `Sir.'
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-23 22:08 (UTC)
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That's funny!
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-23 22:21 (UTC)
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It would be, if he wasn't running the country. Although I use the word `running' in its loosest possible sense.
He made his leader's speech at the Labour Party Conference today (where there has been much parsing of David's speech to see whether he's winding himself up for a leadership challenge) and it really annoyed me, all this bollocky talk of this being the `British Century.' He said that Labour had made social mobility possible, and I thought, yeah, he's done that all right - downward. Made me want to vote Conservative, just out of spite.
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-23 22:27 (UTC)
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Whatever does he mean by
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Whatever does he mean by <British Century</i>? I thought you guys <i>had</i> that already. ;)

I'm afraid I'm not as up on British politics as I should be. For that matter, I'm not all that 'up' on American politics, either! Terrible, I know. The thing is, it's all 'bollocky'! (I do like that word.)
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-23 22:34 (UTC)
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I don't know what he meant by `British century.' If you look at it in isolation, it's a nonsense phrase. Like much of his speech.
Things have been going so badly for Gordon this year that he really needed a corker of a speech to calm the nerves of his MPs and stop a revolt. The commentators seem to think he just about squeaked through, but all I heard was about three quarters of an hour of patronising drivel dressed up as an inspirational oration.
There's no reason why you should be up on British politics. There's no reason why anybody should be. It's all just facile and fatuous and kneejerk and I'm rather embarrassed by it.
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-23 22:46 (UTC)
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. We're so embarrassed by our King George that we all need a vacation from madness.

England is very important to us, especially since you guys are our allies. I know it's an unnerving state to be in, our allies, and no doubt a huge thorn in England's side. But most Americans love England, our one time Alma Mater.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-23 23:00 (UTC)
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Part of the embarrassment, I have to admit, is that many people - myself included - were expecting better from a Labour government. And when Tony disappeared like the Demon King in a panto, we sort of expected Gordon to repair the damage.
A British comedian called Paul Merton got right to the heart of it last year when he said the essential tragedy of Gordon Brown is that he spent a decade waiting to become Prime Minister, and when he finally did he found he wasn't up to the job. It's almost Shakespearean.
I know a lot of people who, for various reasons, distrust America the political entity. But I don't know anybody who has a bad word to say about the American people.
And don't worry about the Monkey King. His days are numbered. Every news report I see about him these days is about him doing something for the last time. These are indeed the Last Days of the Bush Administration. Rapture's comin'. And about bloody time, too.
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2008-09-24 11:12 (UTC)
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I see plenty of people online who have a bad word for sections of the american populace.
With Gordon, I suspect that had the economy chuntered along like it used to, he would have been a dull but functional prime minister. Of course in reality the wheels have fallen off his dream wagon and he doesn't know where the nearest garage is.
Or possibly he has been stuck in the new labour dream world for so long that he cannot now see reality. Any comment about making social mobility possible when EVERY SINGLE INDICATOR shows that it has decreased, suggests someone who is utterly bonkers and in need of a nice holiday. Or his speech writers are morons.
Either way, maybe we should kidnap him and make him live the life of an ordinary UK person for a week or three?
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-24 21:53 (UTC)
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There was so much wrong with that speech, I don't even know where to begin. The line about his children not being props - after using his wife as a prop. The stuff about his eye again. The Cameron-bashing (as if Conference were going to boo him for doing that) The utter meaninglessness of some of the phrases he used. I tend towards your suggestion that his speech writers are morons
The thing is, the world economy is entirely out of his control. While it was tooling along down the highway at a hundred miles an hour and everyone in Britain was watching the price of their house go up because of it, he was happy to let the disaster happen because he could claim to be responsible for the illusory prosperity it brought. I agree, in those circumstances he would have been dull but functional. Now the car-crash has happened, he doesn't have a clue how to fix things. I caught part of your illustrious but distant relative's speech and he seemed to be saying, more or less, that things are fucked-up and they're going to get more fucked-up, but I didn't hear any of that from Gordon, only this bizarre stuff about `the British Century.'
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-24 22:22 (UTC)
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Britain is going through the same economic crisis as America. Our real estate market bubbled then broke, with banks foreclosing on bad loans, only to go broke themselves. Properties are not moving here at all.

Our house plummeted $100,000.00 in value this past year.

I can see that real estate in Britain has sky rocketed over the last five years.

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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-24 22:47 (UTC)
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And in London, depending on who you believe, prices are still rising. Although according to Bogna, who's an estate agent, the market in our part of town has been flattening out for a couple of years now.
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2008-09-25 12:35 (UTC)
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Maybe we should audition as Gordon speechwriters?
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-25 21:13 (UTC)
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We could give it a whirl, but I'd have to be on dramamine the whole time to stop the nausea. I'd have to take something for the self-loathing, too.
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2008-09-24 11:08 (UTC)
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England or Britain?
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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2008-09-24 14:44 (UTC)
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er . . . Britain. Of course. All of the UK. At least I love the UK, need to visit the islands before I eventually move on.

But I think there are a great many Americans who love Britain.
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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2008-09-24 14:51 (UTC)
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Pretend I fixed the above. Mea culpa.

Although I really don't think what I wrote could be construed as "raw content". ;)
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-24 16:11 (UTC)
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uh . . . the anonymous is me. Can't seem to wake up today.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-24 21:42 (UTC)
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It's okay, I figured out it was you. ;-)
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-24 21:41 (UTC)
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I thought that was pretty funny, actually. `Raw contents below.' Sounds like instructions for loading your fridge.

Edited at 2008-09-24 09:41 pm (UTC)
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-09-24 22:14 (UTC)
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Sounds like instructions for loading your fridge.

Really! :D

Pam and Paul's pics make me long for a trip to Britain.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-09-24 22:45 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
It's not a bad old place, really, in spite of some careless former owners down the years.
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