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hutch0
Date: 2007-12-23 21:16
Subject: they can take our lives, but they can never take our freedom! er...
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I suppose I'm a bit late to the party on this one, but I noticed today's New York Times article about J Edgar Hoover's plan to jail around 12,000 Americans back in 1950.
Then I noticed an article in today's Sunday Times about Gordon Brown's plans to bring in new powers to confiscate people's passports. Now, the courts can already take away your passport - say if you're a drug dealer or a football hooligan - but Brown's plan would allow your passport to be forfeited without going through the courts.
Nothing much changes, does it?
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2007-12-24 00:00 (UTC)
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Just another example of their desire to do stuff without oversight. But it'll be alright if you are law abiding, of course.

Anyway, they have already effectively confiscated my passport by holding it up for security checks, the nature of which they are not allowed to tell me.

As for absent fathers not paying up, what is the problem with stopping hte money at source anyway? None that I can see.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2007-12-24 00:19 (UTC)
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I read your post about the passport thing; that seems totally irrational.
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2007-12-24 11:08 (UTC)
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Just phoned them again, the guy at Peterborough sounded exactly like one of them smug jobsworths that should be taken off and tarred and feathered. So around 2nd week in January is the expected arrival.
This is of course too late. I shall have to alter my travel plans accordingly. Allegedly these are normal checks, but they are taking longer than normal. My opinion is that either they are short staffed, (Although he denited it) or their much vauinted computer systems are knackered, which seems very likely.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2007-12-24 12:52 (UTC)
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My guess is that they're short-staffed and their computer system's knackered. Which is a disgrace.
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RealThog: 'Ronica
User: realthog
Date: 2007-12-24 01:48 (UTC)
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Here's a (hopefully) relevant quote:

"In a free country, we punish men for the crimes they commit, but never for the opinions they have."

-- Harry S Truman, 1950, resisting an equally vile piece of legislation just a couple of months earlier. Congress, which had passed the "Concentration Camp Act" that Truman was referring to, overrode his veto. Over the next few years, the Act was dismantled as unConstitutional and thereby illegal. Nothing like it was to resurface until . . . well, hello there, Il Buce and Signore Darth.
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