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hutch0
Date: 2008-06-18 23:34
Subject: nottingham
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The Telegraph is reporting that Ridley Scott is planning a Robin Hood movie. It's to be called Nottingham and will star Russell Crowe as the Sheriff of Nottingham and Sienna Miller as Maid Marion and it will be a `revisionist' version with the Sheriff as the good guy and Robin Hood as the bad guy.
Now wait a minute. How on earth can you have a revisionist version of a story that's been cobbled together down the years from ballads and legends and stories and court records? You might as well write a revisionist version of Sherlock Holmes, or Sweeney Todd. What is the point of this? The characters could be anyone and it would have the same currency.
On the other hand, as Ridley Scott is a Brit I'm presuming he'll avoid the wonderful scene in Prince Of Thieves where Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman land under the white cliffs of Dover and Costner tells Freeman, "Tonight we will sleep in my father's house in Nottingham." Word up, Kevin, you'd be lucky if you could do that today. And then there's that extraordinary montage of their journey to Nottingham, which includes them walking along Hadrian's Wall, having mysteriously overshot Nottingham by a couple of hundred miles. Oh I love Prince Of Thieves. I shout at the television when I see that sequence.
On the third hand, it seems Robin has yet to be cast, and it would be only fair and symmetrical for Alan Rickman to play the part, don't you think?
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pds_lit: Nuit
User: pds_lit
Date: 2008-06-19 02:59 (UTC)
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Yes, yes, yes to Alan Rickman!
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-06-19 21:55 (UTC)
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Crowe's no spring chicken any more either, you know.
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jmward14
User: jmward14
Date: 2008-06-19 05:06 (UTC)
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{{{{hutch0}}}}, you've got to stop holding back. Tell us what you really feel about this project. LOL
Prince of Thieves was so bad on so many levels, I couldn't even bear to watch it for the Alan Rickman/Mommy Dearest bits, which were pretty hilarious in their own right. But heck, the Ridley Scott version could cast all that in the shade. I mean, after all that's happened, how could somebody NOT laugh at the prospect of Russell Crowe as a good guy?
Hugs and smiles,
Jean Marie
*who suspects Sienna is campaigning to get Jude Law as Robin so Russell can pummel him for her*
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-06-19 22:00 (UTC)
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Actually, I like the bits where Rickman appears - he's by far the best thing about the film. I read somewhere that the Sheriff was to have been played by Richard E Grant, but he was working on Hudson Hawk at the time and shooting overran and he couldn't do it. I also read that Rickman turned the part down twice and only took it when the producers told him he could more or less do what he liked regarding interpreting the character. How true this is, I don't know, but if all the fun stuff came from Rickman then he rises in my estimation even more - and my estimation of him was already pretty high.
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calcinations
User: calcinations
Date: 2008-06-19 08:42 (UTC)
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Oh no, not another ******* Robin Hood film.
I do medieval re-enactment. I'd like to introduce film makers and others to the finer points of authentic weaponry. As long as they don't harp on about its authenticity, any film that does so is guaranteed to involve lots of nylon and stuff that is 300 years out of date, or just wrong.

(eg leather jerkins with some metal plates sewn on. They are a perpetual favourite of the ahistorical brigade, but have no protective advantage worth talking about. Have I mentioned my fantasies involving people dressed and armoured a la "Braveheart" versus a real circay 1300 army?)
In "prince of thieves", it is rather amusing that they break the laws of physics by using an onager to fly over a wall. It should have splatted them right against it.

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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-06-19 22:12 (UTC)
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Yeah, I thought that about the onager - that's the siege engine thing, right? That was ripe for a Wile E Coyote Moment.
I guess that's why I quite liked the `rival' Robin Hood film that came out at the same time as Prince Of Thieves, the one with Patrick Bergin. It seemed - to my untutored eye - to be more `authentic,' although it probably wasn't.
All the inconsistencies you spot about armour and weapons go right by me, I'm afraid, because I know nothing about those subjects. But by the same token I suspect that `Tonight we will sleep in my father's house in Nottingham' line went right by a significant percentage of the film's worldwide audience. On the other hand, I'll bet you could have a film with a scene where someone walks out of the SECC in Glasgow and says to someone else, "Let's walk up to Aberfeldy; we can be there by teatime," and a London audience wouldn't bat an eyelid.
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rou_killingtime
User: rou_killingtime
Date: 2008-06-26 08:24 (UTC)
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Does the fact that I can't say "cuirass" without sniggering slightly mean I'm horribly immature? ;-)
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-06-26 22:16 (UTC)
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Depends how you pronounce it...
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User: ext_83464
Date: 2008-10-20 07:14 (UTC)
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Russell Crowe's accent already resembles something that would fit in another version Robin Hood... though he'll probably have to drop some of that girth he developed for Body of Lies
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