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hutch0
Date: 2008-12-22 23:18
Subject: sing when you're winning
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Music:`happy birthday' (come and get me if you dare, warner's!)
For those of you who still haven't watched Led Zeppelin on YouTube, you may already be too late. Warner's, who own the copyright on literally scads of pieces of music has withdrawn said scads after negotiations with Google over a content-sharing deal fell through.
Nothing too unusual there, except buried a few pars down in this story is the news - and it was news to me - that Warner's own the rights to `Happy Birthday.' So presumably you have to pay them every time you perform the song in front of an audience. Which, given the nature of the song, would probably be every time. That's the last time I sing `Happy Birthday' to anyone.
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RealThog
User: realthog
Date: 2008-12-22 23:41 (UTC)
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I can't help feeling this is really, really clever of Warners -- to get rid of, at a stroke, one of the major publicity tools for most of their artists.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-12-23 23:39 (UTC)
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The bad publicity for Warner's alone is a really bad idea. They must think there's so much money at stake that it's less harmful to lose the promo.
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RealThog
User: realthog
Date: 2008-12-24 00:15 (UTC)
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"They must think there's so much money at stake that it's less harmful to lose the promo."

I think it's more that they must be really very stupid. They're trying to apply 1980s or 1990s business models to the 2000s.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-12-24 00:21 (UTC)
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I don't know, I think they're more savvy than that. Obviously they haven't got the deal from Google that they wanted, so they're taking their toys away and hoping viewing figures dip enough to bring Google back to the table. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, but I think they believe the possible rewards make it worth a try.
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RealThog
User: realthog
Date: 2008-12-24 01:03 (UTC)
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"I think they're more savvy than that"

To be honest, anyone less savvy than the big record labels it'd be hard to find.

It doesn't really matter that much to Google if Warners buggers off, because there are plenty of indie bands ready and willing to take the pace of the Warners artists. People don't go to YouTube much to see the established stars in action; the real magnet the site has is that you can explore acts you've never heard of . . . like, until now, all the Warners acts who're not established stars.

My guess is that the only reason Google paid Warners was to avoid the logistical nightmare of policing seventy billion videos to remove those which people had uploaded that violated Warners copyright.
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User: sarcobatus
Date: 2008-12-23 01:30 (UTC)
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Jeez.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-12-23 23:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Mm.
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RealThog
User: realthog
Date: 2008-12-24 00:17 (UTC)
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Huh?
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-12-24 00:21 (UTC)
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Yeah.
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RealThog
User: realthog
Date: 2008-12-24 00:39 (UTC)
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Oh.
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