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Date: 2007-11-16 23:01
Subject: before de menezes...
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The media has been full, in recent days, of the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes and its aftermath (of which more a little later) The police would like us to think that this kind of thing is rare, but I beg to differ.

The story's very simple. Diabetic chap in Leeds is going home on the bus when he has a hypo and falls into a coma. The driver finds him at the end of the trip, on the top deck and slumped over a rucksack. Those were nervous times, just after the 7/7 bombings in London, so the driver calls the police. When the police can't get a response from the chap (because he's in a coma, you see) they taser him. Twice.

Chap comes round in handcuffs and thinks he's been kidnapped.

When it's all sorted out and he's belatedly taken to hospital for treatment, he finally gets a half-hearted explanation that he was tasered because he `looked Egyptian.'

There was a picture of Nicholas Gaubert in the print edition of The Times this morning, but it isn't in the online edition. But take it from me, if he looks Egyptian, so do I. So does everyone. As he points out in the article - and it sounds bizarre to say this, in the circumstances - he was lucky. An ocean and a continent away, Robert Dziekanski was not so lucky.
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User: realthog
Date: 2007-11-17 23:51 (UTC)
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Finding examples in the US is embarrassingly easy. Here's the latest: http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8727&news_iv_ctrl=1621.

That site's primary concern recently has been with the case of the Jena 6. If you really want to get angry about brutal, biased, racist and corrupt law-enforcement authorities, there's a good place to start.
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User: hutch0
Date: 2007-11-18 19:29 (UTC)
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Not just the police, but the paramedics too, from what ANSWER says.

The Jena 6 have had some coverage over here, principally on the BBC. And it did get me angry.

Edited at 2007-11-18 07:29 pm (UTC)
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User: realthog
Date: 2007-11-18 22:44 (UTC)
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Of related interest is http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/nyregion/18cuffs.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin. You might especially like this para: "Critics of the policy concede that handcuffing is acceptable to keep a shot person from doing further violence to himself or others, particularly if he may still be armed or in psychiatric distress. But several people said that police officials ought to re-examine the one-size-fits-all nature of the policy, particularly if the shot person is clearly incapacitated or dead from the bullets."
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User: hutch0
Date: 2007-11-18 23:22 (UTC)
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Indeed, as handcuffing a dead person might be construed as gilding the lily somewhat.

I suspect that a police officer would be scratching their head about now, wondering why you and I are having this conversation. To them, the policy makes perfect sense.
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