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hutch0
Date: 2008-04-28 23:01
Subject: science fiction, what's that about, then? (part whatever it is)
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Some time ago, back before the PreCambrian Explosion, when it was just me and Jean Marie and Selkie and the (even then sadly-LJless) OJM rattling around here, with occasional interjections by Lou Anders and brisingamen and peake (remember those days, guys? Before all these boisterous folk started moving in?) I posted a few rather clumsy and embarrassing rants about the state of science fiction today and my rather namby-pamby views on it.
Well, I'm indebted to Neal Asher for pointing me at this article by Richard Morgan (whose novel Black Man I'm currently enjoying enormously) which addresses a few of the points I sort of approached but veered away from. I think the man talks a lot of sense. Any thoughts?
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jmward14: Duzell3
User: jmward14
Date: 2008-04-30 05:09 (UTC)
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Many and fine though his points are, Mr. Morgan has obviously not visited the right mystery boards. The slashing, flaming, backstabbing and wholesale slaughter of sanity and sub-genres on the Dorothy L. list make any half dozen "Wither SF" panels, including those titled "WTF" seem like kiddie tea parties. What makes it even more charming is on Dorothy L, it's ALL personal.
Then there's Romance Writers of America, which goes off the deep end on a regular basis. To take just one instance, about three years ago they tried to vote in a definition of romance that restricted it to one man/one woman, in that order.
To quote Anna Russell, I'm not making this up, you know. LOL
Hugs and grins,
Jean Marie
*who's covered all the genres long enough to know, ain't nobody got green grass on their lawns*
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jmward14
User: jmward14
Date: 2008-04-30 17:09 (UTC)
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I think you've got it in one. Any activity with a following soon turns into a competitive sport. Cheers and best wishes, Jean Marie
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-05-01 20:40 (UTC)
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So science fiction isn't unique, then. Okay, thanks for that; I'd presumed, from what little I knew of other genres, that it was something that only happened in science fiction. Actually, like brisingamen, I find that strangely comforting. Although, to be fair to Morgan, the Dorothy L Sayers boards are hardly where you'd expect behaviour like this to go on. Or do I have that wrong?

Edited at 2008-05-01 08:41 pm (UTC)
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jmward14
User: jmward14
Date: 2008-05-01 20:45 (UTC)
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Actually, the Dorothy L board is famous for that sort of behavior. But you're not likely to know that if you aren't heavily involved with genre, either as a writer or industry professional. Few civilians know the SEKERT PASSWRD. Same as in SF/fantasy. How many folks know about the various communities in LJ, for example, unless they touch on their business?
Hugs and smiles,
Jean Marie
*spreading a little sunshine wherever she, ah, goes*
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-05-01 20:55 (UTC)
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That's true enough. I'd only really heard rumours of slash and fanfic before I got into LJ. That opened my eyes. Particularly regarding H. Potter, Esq.
I think brisingamen nails it when she talks of some fans having a sense of ownership of a character or a book or a subgenre.
On the other hand, that's nothing new. I seem to remember the fans forced Conan Doyle to bring Holmes back from the dead.
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hutch0
User: hutch0
Date: 2008-05-01 22:39 (UTC)
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Actually, do you have any URLs for the Sayers board? I want to have a look at this for myself.
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